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Sunday, February 18, 2007

Why "Lost" is Lost

Lots of people are talking about how "Lost" is spiraling into the depths of crap TV, so I figured, as one of many disillusioned fans, I would add my two cents. Sneaky Edit: There seems to be some confusion in the comments. I am not watching the show anymore, and I doubt I ever will again. I don't think people who still like the show are stupid, I just disagree with them. Also, I've never seen "Heroes," so any insults based on that assumption kinda bounce off. Finally, I like a lot of slow-paced entertainment so, despite the popular accusation, lack of attention span is not my problem.

#1 The Lost Experience

The biggest nail in the coffin for me was the ill-conceived (and tremendously arrogant) Lost Experience. Average, busy viewers like me didn't have the time or inclination for an optional multimedia snipe hunt. One hour a week is plenty, and besides, I figured anything important would surely be revealed within the show itself.

Instead, after sticking carefully to the show for two seasons, I discovered that many of the questions I had been pondering were answered in between seasons in The Lost Experience. In order to get up to speed, I had to read an online FAQ about what was revealed in the course of the game (easily the least fulfilling plot experience of my life).

The Lost Experience spoke volumes about the show and its producers. First, it was an indication that the team isn't talented enough to properly weave the mythology into the plotline. They have these underlying mysteries, they have these characters, and, ah hell with it, let's just make a website explaining some of the island's backstory so we don't have to deal with it.

Second, had viewers like me known how much would be revealed, we might have been bribed into participating. Instead, loyal viewers of the show were punished for non-participation.

Third, what about viewers who didn't have the time or resources to play an internet game? What about old people who like Lost but don't use the internet, or poor people who like Lost but don't have access to the internet, or parents and law students who like Lost but don't want to spend hours every week being screwed around by the producers. The answer from the producers was quite simple: "We don't care about these viewers."

#2 Stupid Producers

On the topic of the producers being idiots, let's turn to their inability to understand the strengths of their own show. Here's an instructive quote from producer Carlton Cuse:
"We don't allow the characters to focus on the mythology. But when we sit down and we work on the stories, we're primarily spending most of our time talking about these characters and how they interact. And I think that if the characters became focused on the mythology, a lot of people would drop out. I think there's a much larger audience that's much more interested in "Who is Kate going to choose?" than the details about who Alvar Hanso is."

Maybe there is a "much larger" audience that cares about a clumsy, cliche love triangle than an innovately mysterious island, but I seriously doubt it. My interest in Lost, like many people's, was centered around the "mythology" and not the ham-fisted characters. I like character development more than most, but a show like Lost needs to keep its characters well-rooted in what is central to the show: the mystery.

Which brings us to...

#3 Characters

If the producers turn all of their efforts toward turning Lost into a Passions-like soap opera, then why, pray tell, are all of their characters crap?

Jack has trouble with relationships. We get it. We've gotten it since the first season. Message received. The flashbacks started as an interesting storytelling device, but quickly devolved into just another way to hold back on as much of the plot as possible. Now, we get multiple flashbacks with the same "character development."

Look, Kate's a manipulator who always runs from her problems! Look, she did it this other time! Oh look, it gets her into trouble a lot! Oh my gosh, it happened again, and it totally parallels what's happening on the island! Flat characters make for boring TV.

That's not to say there haven't been fascinating characters on Lost--Desmond, early Locke, Mr. Eko, Ben--but do you notice a pattern? The only time characters are interesting is when we don't know much about them. Remember how compelling the Locke character was in that first episode in his interactions with Walt? Now think of him in the third season, stumping around the island, transformed from enigmatic to sullen. Every time the producers turn their focus to character development, they bungle the job and ruin the character.

Charlie, Kate, Sawyer, and Jack all started as interesting characters when we knew little about them. Then we learned that little bit was all there was to know and we were going to be hammered over the head with it every week, and they became a burden to watch.

Hell, the only reason Mr. Eko remained interesting is because the producers killed him off before they could ruin him.

#4 Plot Holes

Everybody complains that no one on the island talks to each other to solve the mysteries. This is explained in part by Cuse's comment that they're actively avoiding having the characters talk about the mythology. Because, of course, if you were trapped on a supernatural island with nothing to do, you'd never talk about it.

The real reason, of course, is much more simple.
"The reality is, we've written those scenes, and in some cases we even shoot those scenes. And whether you take our word for it or not, we think they don't work. They're incredibly boring. ... If, for example, everybody got together and basically Sayid said, "Well, I'll tell you, I found this wire ,and I followed this wire," and then somebody else said, "Wait a minute," ... and they started to put it together, it would make for very uninvolving television.

They say "it would make for very uninvolving television," but are we really buying that line? Are they seriously saying that watching characters resolve mysteries is "uninvolving?" Sherlock Holmes is uninvolving? Memento is uninvolving? One of the greatest genres of literature is uninvolving?

Allow me to translate what's really being said: "The reality is, we're not good enough writers to write realistic interactions between this many characters when there are so many questions unresolved. So instead, we're going to pretend like it's not a problem and hope people won't notice that the resulting situations are completely unbelievable wild goose chases."

This, dear producers, is called writing yourself in a corner. When you develop a plotline that you can't explain without an hour of recapping and narration, you are writing poorly. You can blame the idea that the scenes would be "boring," but they're only boring because you set them up that way and can't figure out how to write yourself out of the hole.

Stop giving excuses and start giving answers. I'm not talking about wrapping up all the big mysteries, but for crying out loud, give us something. With so many completely unanswered questions about the island, there's no reason every episode shouldn't contain half a dozen new, tantalizing tidbits of information. Go back to Black Rock, show Jack's dad again, give us anything. You can berate people for lack of patience, but the bottom line is that a compelling plot needs to have constant motion. And instead you gave us Sawyer and Kate fucking in a bear cage for three episodes.

#5 Us vs. Them

This is what it ultimately comes down to. The fans want fun, interesting TV and the producers think they can't deliver it without compromising the plot.

Cuse says: "I think that there are people who fall away because it does require you to really keep up and on the episodes. It's a complicated show."

He truly thinks that the show is such a rich, wondrous tapestry that the only reason people stop watching it is because it overloads them. But anyone paying attention to the audience attrition this season knows it's nonsense. The problem is that we could keep up, and the writers had nothing to give us but the entrances to another dozen plot mazes.

The show hit a point where all momentum stopped. The hatch was fascinating. The revelation of Desmond inside was incredible. Locke attacking a polar bear with a flamethrower was filler, and we're smart enough to know that.

#6 How to Fix It

For characters: Kill Jack. Kill Kate. Kill Nicki and Paolo (or whatever) and never, ever, ever make such a grade school attempt to introduce new characters again. Make Charlie interesting again instead of the whiny, jealous infant he became. Don't screw up Desmond. Cripple Locke and bring back his mystic bent. Let Sayid loose. More Sun & Jin. Make Sawyer say something besides "offensive attention-getter, unimaginative nickname. Sarcastic comment and/or question." Oh, and maybe explain where Danielle is after all this time.

For plot: Get the Others jacked into the mythology again instead of turning them into a Melrose Place-style tangent. Let the characters talk, explore, and care even remotely about why everything is so bizarre, and let them LEARN SOMETHING. Go back to Black Rock. Try to explore the security system's infrastructure. Go to the other stations intentionally instead of accidentally. Give us something about Walt and Michael after they left. Give us serious internal conflict between the "names" and the "no-names." Aren't they sick of sitting around on a beach while Jack and Co. fight pirates and polar bears? Bring on Lord of the Flies mayhem.

For real: It will never happen. The producers' explanations of their goals for the show make it very clear that they are hellbent on ruining everything that was compelling about it. They don't have the imagination or skill to pull it all off and, on top of all of that, they have also made it clear that they disdain the majority of their audience. So, despite its potential, "Lost" is halfway down the spiral and never returning. I suggest you follow myself and 10 million other viewers by turning your back now before the producers waste more of your time.

[Disagree? Read my responses to some very good counterarguments made by Andreas at The Lost Blog]

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At 3:28 PM, Blogger IronBlossom said...

Wait, what is the Lost Experience????

I didn't get into the show till the 2nd season, so I just rented all the DVDs and I never heard anything about this.

Now I'm irritated! Thank goodness for google...

 
At 4:35 PM, Blogger Clever WoT said...

Sorry to be the one to break that to you.

The Lost Experience on lostpedia. Because the show's got so many loose threads that it takes tens of thousands of wiki'ing fans to keep it all sorted out.

 
At 9:56 PM, Blogger Brett said...

I disagree with you completely, Lost to me was never about the mysteries of the Island. It is about people plain and simple. The mythology does intrigue me but if theres some loose ends or not enough explanation then I don't really care.
Also I don't know why so many people want everything explained to them outright, part of the fun of it is to come up with your own conclusions.

 
At 10:34 PM, Blogger Clever WoT said...

Fair enough, Brett, but as I mentioned in #3, I think the characters are getting screwed up too.

I definitely don't want the show to be all mythology and no character development (especially since it's obvious the two are so intertwined). My problem is that I feel that neither have been progressing for quite some time.

 
At 5:30 AM, Blogger FuzzyFelt said...

I thought the second season was going reasonably well. I am up to date with season 3 and have to ask - what have we learnt (of any consequence) in these opening episodes? I agree with wot - the characters haven't really developed either.

I think the lost experience was a worthwhile experiment and it seems the producers have no intention of revealing the online facts within the TV show. So they obviously consider the online experience stand alone - the correct way to do things if you don't wish to alienate those without the time or a net connection.

 
At 5:34 AM, Blogger moontear said...

Hear Hear.

No really man, you spoke true words and that is the reason I stopped watching Lost. It was just toooo long winding and exactly as you - no time for poking holes in the Internet.

 
At 5:43 AM, Blogger Michael said...

Although I agree with your post completely, especially the producers' inanity in favoring the characters over the mythology, I wonder at your adamant tone. Have we really progressed as a society where law school students feel a divine right to "proper" television shows?

 
At 5:50 AM, Blogger Herb said...

this website has an article about Heroes but the makers also talk about Lost. Some of the same writers who have jumped ship talk. Interesting to me since Heroes has leapfrogged over Lost as my favorite show.

http://www.ogmog.com/2007/02/07/heroes-execs-discuss-shows-future-lost-more/

 
At 5:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

get bent michael.

sincerely,

law student

 
At 5:59 AM, Blogger Daniel said...

this list is the most whiny i've read in a long time. But hey, i read it to see what you have to say anyway.

Why do so many lost fans insist on stomping their feet online when the show isn't going they way they want?
That little 'how to solve it' you gave at the end...that would completley ruin the show for me. The show has never been about the mysteries. It's a show about how a certain group of people react to the mysteries. Which means thye'l;l set up a society etc. They'll be love triangles. If you want mystery you can follow with no characterisation, then I suggest you go play Monkey Island 4.

Did you not see episode 8? That episode reminded me why i love the show so much. Lost is, and always will be, filler with a great episode every now and then. If you havent got it by now, then what the hell have you been watching?
Season 1 was a full season of people building a boat and figuring out how to get into a hatch. A FULL 24 EPISODES OF IT. if that's not dragging out a plot line, i dont know what is.

If you don't like it, simple, stop watching it.

 
At 6:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

there's a complete recap/discussions of the lost arg on dharma secrets:

www.dharmasecrets.com/forum

 
At 6:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have to agree 100% with the points you have raised. I stopped watching about 4-5 shows before the end of season 2, because i was tired. tired of being treated like a moron. Then someone said, hang on..the last episode is going to be sooooo thrilling... i gave it another shot... what a big mistake!

Then i saw an ad recently which tries to make a big deal about who will Kate choose??!! (this is in Aust. btw). WHO THE F*#$ CARES! It is meant to be about the mystery, and yes, they are supposed to answer some major part of that mystery by an end of a season, so that you don't feel like you wasted 24x42 minutes of your life.

Lets face it, the producers are trying to cram one seasons worth of story into a Gilligans Island experience. Just like Prison Break. For gods sake...they are out...end of story.

 
At 6:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great article! You should also check out this video, that explains how Lost can get much better: http://www.10zenmonkeys.com/2007/02/16/leaving-lost-limbo/

 
At 6:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't like it, vote with your remote. Lost is not a show for people who don't have the time to think about it.

The lost experience was far from an attempt to fill plotholes. It was an innovative method of providing additional information.

Lost is not perfect but at least it's not reality tv. It's well thought out and (if you have an attention span beyond 42 minutes) incredibly detailed. The have to pander to the lowest common denominator once in a while, deal with it.

 
At 6:37 AM, Blogger GunBlade said...

I got the hell out of there in the middle of season 2... They fucked it up, and a great idea just went down the toilet. I wish there was some way the network would fire everybody related to the show and bring in a new team.

 
At 6:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The last JJ Abrams creation -- Alias --- was ruined exactly the same way, on almost the precise timeline (the first season rocked...second kept the momentum and the third began to unravel). He's no Joss Whedon -- his franchises will never have the depth of something like buffy/angel, which successfully mixed mythology AND character development.

I'm sort of nervous about heroes...but will keep an open mind

GREAT ESSAY

 
At 6:57 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

stopped watching lost real fast; picked up on previous seasons of 24 and Lost no longer compares for me. I was a staunch fan the first two seasons, but gee golly gosh, it's starting to blow now. Kill off jack and kate are excellent suggestions!

 
At 7:20 AM, Anonymous theTVaddict.com said...

While you may some interesting point, blaming the show's failure on "The Lost Experience" is not one of them.

"The Lost Experience" was designed to keep a few thousand (or tens of thousands) of obsessed internet fans interested and engaged in the show over the hiatus. It wasn't something that the 'average' person cared about or knew about. It has nothing to do with the show's decline in ratings.

The reason the show has gone down hill is simply because television fans don't have the patience for the type of story cuse and lindeloff our giving us. We want answers and won't be strung along for endless seasons.

 
At 7:40 AM, Blogger Tor Arne said...

AMEN!

 
At 8:22 AM, Blogger Erich said...

I understand your frustration, and have experienced myself until only recently, when I decided to change my expectations for the show. I think we want the show to be about rational answers, but the central theme has always been the rational versus the supernatural. I wrote about it more on my blog, so I won't repeat myself here: www.atomicblowtorch.com.

 
At 8:26 AM, Anonymous fentex said...

When I first heard of Lost, before it was first shown, I thought it was stupid idea. Then I saw the first episode and loved it, watching Lost was like watching a play every week.

Until the second season, specifically the third episode of the second season, the last one I watched, when characters were destroyed and squandered to try and maintain a suspense that suddenly became ridiculous as the curtain fell and the emperor was wearing no clothes.

The content evaporated in a puff of disbelief which I could no longer suspend because I could no longer credit the characters. Their previously forgiveable disorientation and shock could no longer be an excuse for their now incredible behaviour.

All that was left was stale cardboard propping up advertising ratings.

 
At 8:33 AM, Anonymous Guy said...

Lost isn't as good as it used to be, but it's still better than a lot of shows on regular TV. I must admit the introduction of thew two new characters this season was almost comical.

 
At 8:50 AM, Anonymous Vincent said...

I think your post should be entitled "why you are Lost."

I agree entirely that the show is degrading in quality as so much does after it is "rewashed" time after time. But a show is a business that, just like soaps were invented to sell eh soap, only exists to place commercial in it's middle over and over again. The best way to include continuity is to focus on small "people" problems and leave the big stuff running in the background. If people were to actually adress the mysteries, the show would be over in a week.

About "the experience." That is the viral marketing-machine that has managed to keep Lost's popularity up. It's not gonna disappear and why should it, because again: Lost is a business.

Generally, I couldn't agree more with your sentiments, but let's keep it real. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

 
At 9:02 AM, Blogger Christopher said...

For everyone who has commented that Lost isn't for those that don't have the time to figure it out, or that we're complaining because we haven't invested enough brain power into it, you're wrong.

I've never seen the first season, yes, the ENTIRE first season, and I've never felt lost while watching any of the episodes. Little information is ever needed from previous episodes, or ever referenced, and if it is referenced the mystery of never having seen it before will often add to the experince (the smoke monster, the polar bear).

I've missed a year of character and plot development and don't feel like I've missed anything. I understand what is going on there and I can tell you what the characters are all going to do before they do it, and how they're going to avoid talking about the plot.

I'm just interested to see if they finally take the opertunity to reveal something to Jack, when they lock him in a bear cage and treat him like a moron for an unexplained reason.

 
At 9:23 AM, Blogger guido said...

My advise to the writers is to stop listening to everybody, just write the damn show the way you intended to. This is why Season One is the best, there was no outside input to sway the writing. Now they are writing the show they think the people want to see.. but they are obviously wrong.

 
At 9:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For those that say this isn't a great show, you must be watching something else. It's incredibly complex (obviously more than you can stand to try and think about), and EVERY flashback, EVERY scene, has things in it that relate in one way or another to the grand mysteries on LOST. If season 3, episode 8 didn't show this to you, do us a favour and stop watching -- you obviously can't comprehend the complexities and absolutely intricate plotlines and relationships between people, places, and things in LOST.

 
At 9:35 AM, Blogger Jeff said...

It was "never about the island"? The whole premise of the show was that a plane crashes ON the island and they know nothing about it...

 
At 9:48 AM, Blogger giddings said...

I liken my experience with "Lost" (having bought it on iTunes after the third season already started), to that of playing "Myst" with my uncles growing up.

The experience was rich and filfilling. The tapestry of puzzles, mysteries and evidence thick and long.

While I agree with Brett in terms of the story being about people, it's a bit unrealistic to expect those people to not ask questions. Especially once they start finding signs of civilization on the island (aka the Bunker).

I don't think the writers are to blame on this one. I think the thought here is to milk more money from the show by spending less on production, and exploring the mysteries and loopholes opened by prior episodes would cost money. I hope the producers change their mind on this one.

I have really enjoyed "Lost", and I would hate to give up on it.

 
At 9:52 AM, Blogger Jeramie said...

Well then, go write a show that is more successful and you can be the poster boy for how quality entertainment should be executed. I have the feeling your TV show wouldn't be so "clever" considering your using a played out...cliche as all hell title for this blog.

 
At 10:04 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the mythology is the most important aspect of lost, yes. but look at these people: because it gave them so much diverse things to like in the first season (characters, mythology, action etc), they've ended up liking the wrong thing, so now the producers have to focus on those instead of the mythology. sucks.

 
At 10:07 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

mr eko was the worst character ever.

 
At 10:16 AM, Blogger Fred said...

Yes! Yes! Yes!

On the one hand, I also agree with Daniel who wrote that the first season was all about building a boat and trying to open the hatch, but the first season of any show that doesn't start out with a couple hours of exposition will be able to float a season with two main components like that.

I didn't get involved until the 2nd season, and I went back to see the first. My problem is that I was very quick to become partly pessimistic about the show because it had a single main question (Will they be saved?) and a main mystery about the mechanism of the island. You can't resolve either of those without ending the show, so they would have to keep going just like looking for the one-armed killer (ala the Fugitive). Nonetheless, the show was very compelling and addictive such that I had a guilty pleasure of watching something that was obviously becoming a prime-time soap opera. I guess I'll keep watching some episodes just because it beats all of the idiotic reality and game shows that are saturating the line ups (and don't get me started on the criminal/forensic/legal shows).

 
At 10:17 AM, Blogger Tso said...

The problem with Lost is not the characters or the mythology but the fact that it takes itself too seriously. Anyone who spends time thinking about the "intriguing" mythology on the island obviously has too much time on his/her hand. The soap opera is alright, but again, after 3 seasons of mourning the past and trying to start over, I am getting bored and want this show to start over again. The best season would be the first one. The second season was fine, I like the theme of logic vs instict/science vs religion, and the introduction of "the others" creates great dynamic to the washed-out characters from the first season. My problem is the third season, which is like the original poster wrote, avoiding to explain the mythology and spending the whole season on the love triangle which is not interesting at the first place. I seriously don't care about Kate, Sawyer and Jack, left alone their love triangle. I hope the others will kill them and Locke will figure out the secrets behind the island.

 
At 10:23 AM, Blogger -ricky- said...

LOST is the best tv show EVER. The ratings go bad cos it s getting to complicated,,and many sad morons prefer to watch rubbish tv, so they don't have to think much.

Stop writing crap about how you would make LOST better.
if you think you are so smart and original go to hollywood and become a milionaire drama writer

 
At 10:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm shocked. Shocked! At work we were discussing Lost, and reached similar conclusions. Kate? Jack? Sawyer? Kill them. The Producers must know and understand the backstory. Emphasize the mystery. When Michael started shooting, the show entered a new, and probably unretrievable, slide. Your comments were right on.

 
At 10:40 AM, Anonymous bluesteel said...

How to fix Lost-- solve the mysteries, resolve the character conflicts, and end the show in a season. Bada bing bada boom!

 
At 10:44 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If your going to criticize writers so much, you had better be able to write. Your "essay" isn't that good. You contradict yourself, like ordering the writer's to never, ever, introduce new characters again and then suggesting that there should be more conflict between the names and the no-names. That would necessitate giving voices to new characters. Take the advice you gave about Charlie: stop whining.

 
At 10:54 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you hate Lost, the best tv show on at the moment, so much then just shut up and stop watching. No one cares about your opinion!

 
At 10:57 AM, Blogger Donald said...

I enjoy the mythology part more, I hate desperate housewives cause I could give a shit about their life. Give me interesting and scary stuff with mythology.

This show is fucked up now. I want old lost back. The Desmond episode helped but why did charlie change after the hatch explosion? Where is Ruffo or whoever the woman in the jungle is? Why is Russo's kid calling Ben dad? Why is Ben letting the girl leave? Who are the Others? What is Dharma? What is Hanso? What is everything I DON"T GET THIS SHOW

 
At 11:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If your going to criticize writers so much, you had better be able to write."

Do food critics need to cook as well as Michelin-star chefs? Must my last name be "Spielberg" to criticise movies??

"If you hate Lost, the best tv show on at the moment, so much then just shut up and stop watching. No one cares about your opinion!"... or yours.

I only watched the first season and i loved it. Looks like i shouldn't waste my time with season 2 and 3.

 
At 11:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for mentioning the spoilers for all of us who might not be able to watch every episode as it comes out just to complain about it. Fucker.

 
At 11:15 AM, Blogger Damien said...

fd

 
At 11:20 AM, Blogger Damien said...

hi, ok i am a fan of lost series 1 and 2, as they seemed to mix action character/plot development. however there was a sense of filling some epsiodes just the the plot cliffhanger at the end. i have not watch series 3 yet and by your comments there is alot of filling. so i suggest someone create an edited down version with all the good stuff and save all of alot of time
cheers

 
At 11:45 AM, Blogger Andreas said...

Hey. Just wanted to let you know that I've written a pretty long reply to your post at http://www.lostblog.net/lost/tv/show/why-lost-hasnt-lost-it

 
At 11:53 AM, Blogger Phaedrus said...

The show is starting to alienate the brighter part of their audience. They originally set set up beautiful treats for the mind. So much so that i could have called it the best show ever shown on television. Now they are pandering to their general audience. Soap opera addicted Dumb America. God dammed it. This is the very thing that makes all other shows trash, they underestimate the viewers intelligence. Why oh why lost did you have to stoop so low. You laid the breadcrumbs, you had us following you to a wonderful place, and you swapped price with a soap opera!!!! I WANTED KNOWLEDGE!!!!!!!

 
At 12:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

#7 You're an idiot.

 
At 12:19 PM, Anonymous gordon said...

the problem with lost is that i just don't care anymore. the show doesn't excite me.

 
At 12:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah. reading this post sure makes me glad my wife and I quit watching this season. What originally intested us was the mystery. "how could they all survive a plane crash", "what are those powers the boy seems to have", "Oh look! that guys totally in the background of the other persons flashback; is there going to be some crazy connection between all the passengers", "Those numbers are everywhere. What does it mean". Then you realize it's all just being added so people say "WOW", and scratch their heads more.

Character development is great, but it needs to develope around something that's as interesting.

 
At 12:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know.... the thing that sets Lost apart from the rest of prime time tv is the not knowing what's coming up next week. It's basically the only show on tv that goes that route, except possibly Heroes which, in my opinion, is a decent show but not of the same caliber as Lost.

No matter whether you are hooked on the CSIs, 24, House, or whatever prime time shows you seem to think are better than Lost, the fact of the matter is that they are pro forma shows.... the same episodes over and over again. Every week the crime is solved, the cure is found or the world is saved. You know how it ends. You saw it the week before.

The simple fact that so many people take the time to criticize Lost only proves that it is the best there is.

 
At 12:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think some of the problems you stated that Lost is having are endemic of it being a major network television show, as opposed to being on a smaller network, on cable, or on another medium with less rigid structure.

For whatever reasons, on network TV there *has* to be at least 22 episodes in a full season, and writers feel that they *have* to pander to a more general audience. Those two reasons alone account for 1) the taffy-like stretching of storylines over the course of a season, and 2) the incredibly uninteresting love triangle storyline.

I feel like if this show were broken out like The Sopranos, with only 13-16 eps a season or so, it would be much tighter and much more fun to watch on a week-to-week basis. While I still enjoy Lost, I felt that it really did blow it with the "mini-season," and it definitely felt like they were just stretching there. At the same time I have very much enjoyed the last two eps. So I'll keep watching.

But I definitely gotta agree about the character development issues. If I have to watch another "Charlie addicted to drugs" flashback, or some weirdo left-field "Locke is hanging out in a hippie commune" flashback, then I will be *pissed*.

 
At 12:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Season 3 isnt as great as season 2 yes. But personally that doesnt make me straight away dive for the remote to turn it off.

I love Lost, I'll watch it to then end. The fact its myterious and I don't know everything makes me want to keep watching to find out.

Some of the characters are getting dulled out though I agree with oyu there, Locke, Charlie, they arnt the centre of the spotlight, but however that doesn't mean they are boring characters, it means there is more important things to focus on.

I think the whole thing with Ben's operating was a great tale of how the losties stick together which the producers have spent ages to build up.

I think the time scale on island confuses me some times, they have been on the island say like 40 days or more. However I've been watching like 2 years so you have to bare that in mind before screaming this is boring.

Lost is going to get better, you will be told more information about the island, characters. Eventually it will all be revealed, I hope :P

 
At 12:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Season 3 isnt as great as season 2 yes. But personally that doesnt make me straight away dive for the remote to turn it off.

I love Lost, I'll watch it to then end. The fact its myterious and I don't know everything makes me want to keep watching to find out.

Some of the characters are getting dulled out though I agree with oyu there, Locke, Charlie, they arnt the centre of the spotlight, but however that doesn't mean they are boring characters, it means there is more important things to focus on.

I think the whole thing with Ben's operating was a great tale of how the losties stick together which the producers have spent ages to build up.

I think the time scale on island confuses me some times, they have been on the island say like 40 days or more. However I've been watching like 2 years so you have to bare that in mind before screaming this is boring.

Lost is going to get better, you will be told more information about the island, characters. Eventually it will all be revealed, I hope :P

 
At 12:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Season 3 isnt as great as season 2 yes. But personally that doesnt make me straight away dive for the remote to turn it off.

I love Lost, I'll watch it to then end. The fact its myterious and I don't know everything makes me want to keep watching to find out.

Some of the characters are getting dulled out though I agree with oyu there, Locke, Charlie, they arnt the centre of the spotlight, but however that doesn't mean they are boring characters, it means there is more important things to focus on.

I think the whole thing with Ben's operating was a great tale of how the losties stick together which the producers have spent ages to build up.

I think the time scale on island confuses me some times, they have been on the island say like 40 days or more. However I've been watching like 2 years so you have to bare that in mind before screaming this is boring.

Lost is going to get better, you will be told more information about the island, characters. Eventually it will all be revealed, I hope :P

 
At 12:57 PM, Blogger Peter said...

My big beef with Lost is that the characters don't behave in rational ways. Or in ways that are rooted in simple self-interest.

Think about it. They get locked up, Sawyer and Kate and Jack, and Sawyer or Kate don't KILL somebody? I mean seriously. We're supposed to believe that? Sawyer should have been knee deep in bodies. Kate too.

Also, Jack's not all "Who the FUCK are you people? What the hell are you doing on this island? What the HELL IS GOING ON???!!!"

That doesn't make sense.

And the giant feet, with FOUR TOES? What the HELL??

I totally agree with your analysis. If I wanted to watch a soap opera, I'd go watch a soap opera.

The producers ignore the mythos at their own peril.

 
At 1:05 PM, Anonymous John, Ireland said...

Top notch post. This is the smartest TV review I have read in years, and 100% accurate in every critique of Lost contained within. Fans of the show are being treated woefully by misdirection and misconception - we are smarter than the writers of Lost often believe we are, and we know when we are being led around in a circle. Take note of what became of the X-Files. Remember, after its third season, it was in fan attention and ratings freefall.

 
At 1:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you're stupid as shit.

the guy that played eko asked to be removed from the show to go back home to his family.

he was killed off.

i bet you're a fat ass that just loves to whine and gripe that things arent going his way.

idiot loser.

 
At 1:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

edit on my last post:

he WASNT killed off. typo errors happen to me a lot when idiots like you blog about stuff you dont know anything about

 
At 2:11 PM, Blogger Mike said...

Quit complaining. You are evidently too stupid or too lazy to get involved in The Lost Experience so just enjoy the show or tune into something else. If you have to have everything drawn out for you and presented on a silver platter maybe you should be watching a show dumbed down to you like American Idol. Just because a person is old doesn't make them inept at using the internet. Your generalizations throughout your diatribe were lame and inaccurate. Get a life and quit complaining you sniffling idiot!

 
At 2:11 PM, Anonymous dingo said...

you are a douchebag.... guess what i have never said tihs is to anybody before. but the thing is your being stupid can cost us the one and only intelligent on TV.

its ok to be stupid .. but u can be smart enough not to publicize it.

 
At 2:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This pretty much says it all:

http://www.violentacres.com/archives/109/to-the-writers-of-the-television-show-lost

 
At 3:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got everything right. I hated watching season 2, the episodes were largely hit or miss, and there was a lot of filler episodes that didn't move the plot one way or the other. After the disappointing end of season 2 (remember when it was claimed that it was "the best season finale ever?") I figured I was done with it. Not quite; I watched the first three or four episodes of season 3 before completely giving up on it.

Luckily there's a replacement show I've found: Heroes.

 
At 3:14 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, a certain blogger is a whiny bitch. I don't give two shits about The Lost Experience and I still enjoy the show.

If I wanted everything to wrap up in an hour I would watch Law and Order.

I know it is cool and trendy now to be a whiny bitch about Lost, but I am going to keep on watching.

 
At 3:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone else find it really fascinating (and insanely hypocritical) that this person could rip apart Lost in a blog like this- and yet still be watching the show?

If Lost is so terrible now, why would you watch it? Even though you piss and moan about the episodes not being to your liking, you are still roped in enough to see how it turns out...wouldn't that ironblossom, be the testament of a truly great show?

 
At 3:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason the mythology, technical, and supernatural stuff is stringing along is because not all the watchers are geeks. Also hollywood usually screws up speciality area knowlege implementation. It is watered down to make it support the human side of the story line. Current day setting science fiction is hard to keep the attention of the viewer without throwing in without throwing in something improbable.
All in all most of us techno/spiritual types watch it because we want it to reveal something to us and we want it to be real.
I want to go to this island and explore it, don't you?
For those of us who also watch "Jerico" notice that there are a lot of technical mistakes.

 
At 4:01 PM, Blogger Der Gabriel said...

Obviously, they have written themselves into a corner as you have aptly called it not only in regard to the characters vs. story-problem - the obvious problem is that by now i'm almost 100% sure that their so called mythology does not work out. there's too many contradictions already, this just doesn't work. it's the same with the x-files: in the end, you didn't care anymore, because you knew you weren't ever getting to see the bigger picture. because there was no coherent bigger picture.

 
At 4:30 PM, Blogger Sybs said...

Thanks for that article. I almost entirely agree.
It was awesome until Season 3 started. Since then nothing has moved an inch.

 
At 4:47 PM, Anonymous Justin said...

If ONLY Lost were produced by HBO! Or even Showtime. All in all, it's been a wonderful experiment and hopefully future writers can learn from it.

 
At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree with you entirely. Lost is a great show and is one of the best TV dramas of all time. If you would get a lil deeper into the story and look at all the clues the give you then maybe you would understand it better and see how awesome it is.

 
At 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

100% TRUE!!!

 
At 4:52 PM, Blogger Mike said...

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At 4:55 PM, Blogger Mike said...

you are an idiot. keep watching heroes since you have the attention span of a 3 year old. if you want to stop watching a show, stop watching! NO ONE ELSE CARES. you don't have to scream it from the rooftops.

 
At 5:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will talk about viewer's choise, and i will talk about tv.com ... In the 10 most liked episodes you will find 6 episodes of season 2 (which many of you say sucked). Also you will find 5 out of 8 season 3 episodes rated above 9.0... Some of you will say the ratings are lower than the 1st season, and also that the viewers are fewer. I'll give you a hint. How many viewers did Lost lose in the mid of season 2 where there was like 0 things going on? Anybody know a new series with much more action going on during that season? oh, Prison Break, right? Anybody know an (many say) even better series this season? Heroes. Lost started off during the 4th(?) season of 24, when ppl wanted something new, they wanted a break from jack bauer's time-beating races, and don't say otherwise. With great new series every year, how can you expect a 3rd season show keep it up with those shows that play their first few episodes. Again, some will say, "well i continue to watch 24, and that doesn't wear off with time, it only gets better". Each 24 season has little or no connection with the next one, it's not a story that has to keep going. And someone already said in the first few comments that you claim the 1st season was great and the 2nd screwed it up... well if you wanna break it down to the outcome, all they did is build a raft and open a hatch door... in 24 episodes... if that is not waste of time watching it, what is? But there was nothing better at that time was it? no prison break to pump up the adrenaline... that's what "Lost" lost during season2 and will continue losing in season3. All you action-only fans... And yeah kill jack, kill kate, cripple locke... let's lose all the actors that actually know how to act, that as characters think and do more, because they are capable to do it, and let's leave it up to charlie, jin, sun, hugo and sawyer to solve the big mysteries. They will spend an entire season playing guitar, fishing, gardening, eating and sleeping... each to what knows best. The things you propose is like saying let Lincoln in pb do all the planing, LOL. Thanks a lot, have fun watching the series, 'cause i know you will.

P.S. If some ppl doubt the integrity of tv.com, it's the same site that places 24, pb and heroes above lost in the ratings.

 
At 8:05 PM, Blogger JPW said...

Yeah, they screwed the pooch on this ridiculous show. It's all very well saying "it's all about the characters" but when you make the characters a bunch of uninteresting, unimaginative and frankly moronic twerps, who don't grow or change, then it obviously *isn't* about the characters, it's about keeping the show on air as long as you can in order to get a regular paycheque.

Minor mysteries opened up in Season 1 remain unresolved. What was the deal with all those skeletons in the cave? We still don't know. I gave up on it halfway through Season 2. It's a real shame, because those first couple episodes were really good and (sort of) original stories, but then the plot just fell apart completely. The producers and writers honestly do not know what they are doing. It used to be a moderately intelligent show, quite unlike anything else on TV at the time, but now it's just, as you say, a soap opera within the framework of a stupid, go-nowhere mystery that keeps growing and growing like cancer.

Lost is well and truly lost, without question. Those who say they are interested in the characters are either lying or stupid, because the characters are boring and don't develop in any meaningful way. The whole thing is shit.

 
At 8:17 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you on everything. I miss the first season, with its intrigue and suspense and new discoveries...I miss the characters actually meaning something!

I lack the time and patience for the whole Experience thing, and I'm disappointed now that there have been great things revealed through it. I don't think that makes me less of a true fan of Lost, or less intelligent. I'm a student. I have the time to set aside an hour each week to watch Lost, but I don't have the time to poke around online for hours more than that.

I agree with you on the subject of characterization. The whole reason I started watching LOST in the first place was because it was written with characters in mind. Sex mistaken for romance does not count as characterization. Repetitive flashbacks are not characterization. Characterization occurs when characters react to the various MYSTERIES (hey...rememeber those?) that come into focus, or when something NEW is revealed about the past. Not when Kate just can't make up her mind for five whole episodes (or however many it was).

The first season of Lost was phenomenal--nothing like it had ever happened on TV before. The second season was largely forgettable, but with a few redeeming moments. And from what I've seen of the third, it's all garbage. Lost is going the way of the Soap Opera, unfortunately.

Some other people here in the comment section have demanded to know why Lost fans complain about the show online. The answer is, for me at least, and perhaps for you too, that there is the hope that someone will see it and a difference will be made.

Excellent entry!

 
At 11:43 PM, Blogger Carole said...

I agree with you. I stopped watching Lost early in season two. It stopped being compelling, because the writing got horrible, plain and simple. Now I watch Heroes instead and I am a much happier TV viewer.

 
At 11:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is the problem with your idea. They have roughly FIVE seasons, at around 22 epi's per season, to tell a story. Some of it HAS to be filler, some of it has to be camoflouge to hide the 'easter eggs' in. There is no way they can do a story in 2 seasons because their bosses, and us, would flip out. I didn't get involved with the Lost Experience because I didn't want to learn that much, i'd rather Tivo the show, watch it carefully when i have a chance, and scribble some notes about what I'm being shown. No one has patience any more, no one has depth of character to let themselves be taken by a good story. That's what this is, a good story. I read all 7 of Stephen King's Dark Tower series. ALL 21 years of it. King could have gotten it done in 2 or 3 novels, but he had filler, CHARACTER development, story within a story to take care of. And the King loves the show. He knows a good story when he sees one.

Too bad it's easy to write a blog about how impatient and boring one is.

 
At 12:41 AM, Blogger jim said...

Man, I'm lost!

 
At 2:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya, all u can do is whine about it. you dont have the understanding to grasp the subtleties of the show so u blame it for slow pace and character malfunction (anyone who puts 'clever' in his name just confirms his stupidity)

and hey, 'lost experience' is a completely separate entity and i am pretty sure it had more to do with the executives rather than the creators of the show.

and for a person who hates the show so much you seem to devote too much time bitching about it. heres a piece of advice for u brother, just stop watching the show and the world will be a better place for both of us. namaste

 
At 2:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you all are a bunch of whiny noobs that know jack shit about the show. It's probably one of the best TV shows ever made. LOST and Battlestar Galactica (Sci-Fi) are the only things I watch currently.

 
At 2:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

One more thing, the last episode, "Live Together, Die Alone", is some damn good writing. This is a show about Stories, and it's a show about Humanity.

 
At 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting. here's my (in hindsight, TOO-long) take on that link's take:
- first though.. the internet based game wasn't really a game, it was more of an advanced treasure hunt that's best left to experts to figure out and then post the results.. which in a matter of .. not even 2 weeks, happened (this one's the best - http://lost.cubit.net/ - others are: http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/ and http://www.losthatch.com/default.aspx - personally, i think this one is the most useful: http://www.isLostaRepeat.com/ : ) - yeah, it'd be nice for the lazy people if they had included ALL possible information created for the show IN the episodes, but the whole point of the Lost Experience (i hate calling it that) was to use the web to provide ADDITIONAL information in the form of clues that led to other clues ie... simulating a treasure hunt and solving-a-mystery all rolled up into one. the reviewer/writer-of-that-article SHOULD HAVE noted that 98% of viewers didn't actually have to do ONE DAMN THING to find out the 'additional info' ... because.. hey, remember the internet? ya - they just had to find one of the lost-exp-blog sites and read what bonafide experts (ie. video capture/analysts, cryptographers, medical doctors, cartographers, internet-research-freaks, etc, etc, etc) brought to the table with their expertise - which was a lot.. kinda scarily so.
- #2 Stupid Producers - totally agreed. the producers ARE morons, as evidenced by the season 3.5 'watch-the-producers-talk-about-lost-while-we-explain-parts-of-the-show' episode. and the quote about people " more interested in "Who is Kate going to choose?" than the details about who Alvar Hanso is." - pu-lease.. go watch Melrose-90210-Studio-60-on-the-Desperate-Housewives-Strip if you need to fill your who's-hooking-up-with-whom jones. i haven't been into that gossipy crap since Twin Peaks.
#3 Characters - again, agreed. weak, OVER-frickin-done character development. we GET it, producers, thanks... see ya next week when ya show me how kate was so kate-like in her past. (i'd also be fine w/ her & jack being killed off... or made retarded)
#4 Plot Holes - i wanted to tear this # apart but all i disagree with is the simple solution of "having everyone get together and talk about the mysteries" which WOULD be boring and contrived, forced... lame. the last paragraph of # 4 is dead on tho... 12 new tidbits per epis please.
For plot: Get the Others jacked into the mythology again instead of turning them into a Melrose Place-style tangent. Let the characters talk, explore, and care even remotely about why everything is so bizarre, and let them LEARN SOMETHING. Go back to Black Rock. Try to explore the security system's infrastructure. Go to the other stations intentionally instead of accidentally. Give us something about Walt and Michael after they left. Give us serious internal conflict between the "names" and the "no-names." Aren't they sick of sitting around on a beach while Jack and Co. fight pirates and polar bears? Bring on Lord of the Flies mayhem.
AGREED - and Amen. and Please.
For real: It will never happen. The producers' explanations of their goals for the show make it very clear that they are hellbent on ruining everything that was compelling about it. They don't have the imagination or skill to pull it all off and, on top of all of that, they have also made it clear that they disdain the majority of their audience. So, despite its potential, "Lost" is halfway down the spiral and never returning. I suggest you follow myself and 10 million other viewers by turning your back now before the producers waste more of your time.
DISAGREED - what a weak summation.. what a buncha crybaby nonsense... yeah, i'm sure the producers are actively trying to RUIN EVERYTHING.. that they dont have the imagination or skill to fix things and that they disdain (ooh, big word) the majority of the audience... the show HAS potential to change for the better.. granted, that doesn't often happen but everything i've been reading is all about how disappointed everyone is with the show lately & if the Lost producers dont have focus groups (like 200% of every show ever made) then they are ... Truly LOST (hay-ohhhhh! how's THAT for a closing line?!?!)

 
At 12:57 PM, Anonymous briank said...

I completely agree with the rant. There has been far too much character development then plot, especially in season 3 to date. The art is being able to fuse the two elements . Like the xfiles they have set up the audience with elements like the hatch, black rock and recently patchy with little pay off. But to add insult to injury, they keep introducing new characters, distracting viewers from the real premise - a group of people with some common thread brought to a mysterious island run by a secret society.

I have read several articles on the producers of lost and it's troubling to hear that they did not create a story skeleton to map out the series to include plot points that need to be resolved throughout it's broadcast run. Maybe if they thought to resolve some mysteries they could build on them, creating more compelling television.

It's still my favourite show but I am starting to suffer from character development fatigue. I also feel like they (ABC and the Producers) are taking us, the viewers, for granted.

I don't want to feel foolish for watching (wasting my time) a series that may never resolve itself.

lost got lost,
briank.

 
At 2:45 PM, Blogger Jeff said...

perfectly stated. couldn't agree more. hopefully other shows will learn from this disappointing tailspin.

 
At 4:42 PM, Blogger George said...

I wish I could disagree with most of this, but I can't. So many excellent shows are completely destroyed by introducing the inevitable love triangle, and that is the point where you can see things starting to go downhill. Look at The Practice, once an excellent show, then when they spiced things up with the love triangle it lost its interest. Kill any one of the three and there is a chance for the show to get back to where it started, but unfortunately I don't think that this is going to happen.

 
At 5:37 PM, Blogger marissa said...

i completely agree with everything.

i missed most of the 2nd season, and when i caught the first episode of the 3rd, i was shocked to feel that i hadn't missed a thing: they weren't any closer to knowing anything. someone was captured, insert flashback, blah blah, blah.

 
At 8:19 PM, Blogger YBFREE.com said...

I agree with all your comments, except for killing Jack, Sawyer and Kate. :)

Well at least I have "Heroes". :)

 
At 10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the lost experience was minor information that never would have made the show-- it's just not that big a deal. LOST is still a great show, and who cares if you don't watch it anymore-- are you going to blog about how you don't watch diffr'nt strokes anymore?

and your ideas about how to improve the show suck, except in the way they demonstrate why you write this lame-o blog, and not for quality tv shows.

either watch it or don't-- who cares? the internet is full of people that constantly threaten to stop watching something or other.

why don't you move to canada, too?

 
At 12:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just love the guy that called himself the lowest common denominator. You gotta love this country.

 
At 7:10 PM, Blogger U.C. said...

I agree with the most of it , but what is that wrong with jack or kate? especially jack. jack is definitely central. last name:shepherd. it would be stupid to kill him off because he is supposed to be one of the few, even the one maybe, to let those people out of there.

 
At 9:43 AM, Blogger casuallydone said...

Well some of what you say makes sense to me but your bit on plot holes seems a bit silly. Lost since day 1 has not been filling in any gaps, it's a big tease of a programme, giving us too much information and not enough answers, but as i said that's been the case since day 1 so why is it now a problem? Why did you like it in the first place? if it's now (at season 3) such a problem? The best thing for me about Lost and the most innovative was the way it merged life in the present (on the island) and life way back when (before the island) and consequently how things that happened before the island affect their actions on the island.

My big problems with the show are the lazy methods they use to bring in new characters and killing off its best characters. Start of season 3 there were new people on the island, never seen before by us and yet familiar characters such as Hugo and charlie are interacting with them as if they're old buddies. I found this ridiculous. And killing off Echo was a joke. The only intersting character left is Desmond and hopefully he's there for the long haul.

 
At 3:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to admit I a LOST newbie - I saw the special they ran for suckers like me who had never watched the show. I ran out to Blockbuster and rented the whole 1st ad 2nd seasons and watched them within a week (I guess I have a lot of time on my hands). Anyway, I read your comments and thought - this person has put down all the thoughts I started thinking somewhere in the 2nd season. What is wrong with these people? Nobody ever says anything relevant about anything. Hurley I can understand because he is wondering if he is truly going mad. Locke wants to remain on the island, so that may explain why he wants to keep his secrets. My big question is -- Why in the hell hasn't anyone recognised that a teenaged girl who remarkably still has her birth name "Alex" would probably be Russeau's kidnapped daughter - named "Alex". Are Jack, Sawer and Kate too stupid to figure this out or have they just not noticed?

I know something is missing in a script when I sit and watch thinking that I could have done a better job. Well, let's hope it gets better. They did do a good job casting Joan Crawford's film daughter, Diana Scarwid, as the evil baddie. She is truly scary.

 
At 9:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you could come up with a better show we can all watch. Why don't you get on that.

 
At 12:38 PM, Blogger Alex said...

What a whiner. "Oh, I want all the answers, and NOW!" Too frickin’ bad. Go watch "One Tree Hill" or "According To Jim" "if you can’t handle intelligent television. You probably don't like "The Wire" or "Battlestar Galactica" either. Oh, please, Magic TV Box, don't make me THINK! Boo frickin’ hoo.

 
At 7:49 AM, Blogger kurai said...

Oh please. It's just a television show. It's people like you get so worked up about how nothing is ever being answered that ruins it. Just take it an episode a time, an hour of your week where you can just sit and watch some good entertainment. If, however, you sit there expecting each episode to be like a season finale you're expectations are way too high. Do you then expect the actual season finale to show the destruction of the universe, because after all, that would be the only way they could beat it.

 
At 8:52 AM, Blogger Na Ir El Nasl said...

You should mail your suggestions to fix the show to the producers. They are all really good points! You hit it right on by saying the show has become "soap opera" type entertainment.

Perhaps they can explore the individuals beliefs of each characters as well. They have all this religious theology... why not explore it further and connect it to the island? It would be interesting to know if Mikhail is an atheist who believes in anarchy.

They should really bring the show's strength back... which was stimulating the mind and making people wonder instead of the usual "sell by sex" mentality.

 
At 11:30 AM, Blogger Ben said...

Hello,

I just wanted to point out a few interviews with the executive producers and writers of LOST because it may help explain a lot of the behind-the-scenes efforts going into the show. Also, the Lost Experience is explained as being a side-story, and while canon, not necessary for knowing the continuation of the show.
Interview:
BuddyTV Interview
Podcast:
KCRW The Treatment

Thanks!

 
At 2:01 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with 100% of this post. Thank you for putting it into words. I have stopped watching the show as well and think they should rename the show to one of these three titles.
1)Flashbacks
2)ZZZZZZZZZ...
3) Blah Blah Blah

Honestly.. the show is 90% flashbacks, 9% commercials and 1% actual interesting show.

 
At 7:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree with you. I still like to watch Lost. It's a different thing, a phenomenon. I love to watch and think anout it, read forums about it. Lost is not Lost.

 
At 8:01 PM, Anonymous chet said...

I enjoyed reading your comments. There isn't much out there written from the anti-Lost perspective.

My comments on the recent episodes can be found at
http://buzzdroid.com/lost-tv-show/lost-abc-tv-show-it-is-becoming-more-like-roadrunner-and-star-wars-with-every-episode/

 
At 8:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are several problems with Lost, TLE last summer was way too monotonus and boring for me to keep up with. It got to the point I just watched the Blogs and waited for someone else to answer the questions. The character's not developing doesn't bother me much, because I am more interested in the Mythology of the island. What has bothered is the fact that we have no answers about A) what DHARMA is doing on the island and B) What the numbers mean, throwing them in every once in a while on something from the DHARMA people yeah that's great but what the f do they mean? Why are they turning up everywhere? If Lost would answer some questions that would be great, and would probably make some of the viewers who have turned it off turn it back on. I still watch and enjoy the show, but it is no longer my favorite show on TV. Alias got boring too and then they brought back the good stuff so maybe they will start a 48 episode sprint to the finish and wrap some of these things up.

 
At 10:22 AM, Blogger David Beaumont said...

This is a brilliant critique of Lost and the producers should be pleased to get such intelligent, feedback from a fan of the show like this. To be honest I'm amazed someone puts so much clear thought into the show without it being their actual job. If I were one of the producers I'd show a bit of humility and hire this guy! And yes - I agree with him 100%. Repetition of the same, already explained and not very deep, aspects of Jack, Sawyer, Kate's characters is super strength audience repellant. Turning Locke into something boring takes a strange kind of talent - but they've managed it. It's time to change direction, the producers need to be humble in order to improve and to accept that change. Otherwise Lost will keep going in the direction it is heading - down, down down...

 
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At 7:50 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 11:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe me when I tell you that Heroes is overrated, if you ever liked LOST I'm sure you'll see all the plot-holes in Heroes, the writers are less qualified than LOST's. Heroes is entertaining but is nowhere near what LOST was or is, even now that the quality of the show has declined...

 
At 3:41 PM, Anonymous eliz said...

i think you are RIGHT ON THE MONEY, mr law student blogger! LOST airing used to be a RELIGIOUS EVENT in my house and ten in the middle of season four I GAVE UP COMPLETE:Y b/c i felt so BETRAYED by the insane , schoolyard fantasy story lines and soap opera tactics BO!O! i didn't even bother with season five. it actually hurt to watch it, made me sad. like watching a once beautiful dancer limp across a stage in her winter years, barely able to walk, UGH!

 
At 8:28 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you completely. I wanted to like Lost. I love sci-fi fantasy, and I don't mind complex plotlines - my favorite series is Farscape. But, as you say, the writers continually add to the questions while giving us no answers. Watching it became boring, and so I stopped.

 
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